Als Europa niets doet, verliezen we de macht over ons geld
- Follow the Money
- Podcast
Abstract
This podcast episode from Follow the Money features host Thomas Bollen interviewing Martijn van der Linden, released September 21, 2025 (about 49 minutes, in Dutch).
The conversation centers on who controls money creation today — largely private banks rather than the public — and what's at stake if Europe doesn't act. Van der Linden recounts his path from working at ING to becoming a monetary reform advocate after the 2008 crisis, and discusses what the Dutch "Ons Geld" campaign has achieved over 15 years. A key theme is the growing risk that tech billionaires and crypto ventures (Zuckerberg, Trump's crypto initiatives are name-checked) could fill the power vacuum if Europe fails to build credible public alternatives, tying back to the digital euro debate you asked about earlier.
You find the podcast here: https://www.ftm.nl/artikelen/podcast-als-europa-niets-doet-verliezen-we-de-macht-over-ons-geld?share=LpVvxPBCGWrLGoEbGhZULk4j%2F3Aqzvf3pyv5UV4gJkn5ULpG42NHSpO5GA4%3D